Stephen Fry interview : Analysis of Mentality
Being from the Arabian lands in origin we do find it very strange how some Europeans are able to show so much hatred towards their Creator. (Is this a hate crime I wonder).
How they they portray him as some evil being ready to toss everyone into a burning hell fire with no remorse but is happy and joyful about it.
My question is how did they develop such an image about God. What made them choose that image? And what happened to the image of the Creator being loving and good. With angels that do good etc
How did this progression happen? What happened to trigger it?
Ok this is my analysis:
I think its all to do with the priests in the dark ages.They exploited relgion to basically get money and power. And also to serve the interests of the Kings and rulers of that time. Eg whenever a King wanted a war they would rally the people using religion. And would say that God wanted this war etc. The masses could easily be deceived that way. Who would think that the priests would be corrupt people?? But when you see how rich the church is then maybe you wouldnt be so surprised. By the way I hope you dont think I am using article to attack Christianity, being a Muslim in belief. This priesthood deception occurs i think in all religions. In the Muslim world this same dark ages is there now. Although slowly we are waking up from it thankfully. And these priests we call them scholars of the sultan ie servants of the Kings. Today, however, it is the media that plays their role in Europe. People believe whatever the TV and radio and newspapers say generally, so the media is the new priesthood today. Dont think they have gone. Just changed form. And the old priests no longer have much influence. The people in power will always want some tool to use to deceive the masses. If people dont care about religion today they will try to find another way to control and deceive the masses.
Going back to the old priests , they would also use the threat of Hell fire to threaten anyone who wouldnt obey them and as a result God would appear like an evil dictator whom we must serve otherwise hell is the destination and we would lose out on heaven. Whereas the reality of it is that God wants goodness and justice on earth not wars to help kings stay in power and defeat their rivals. Consequently you get a reaction to this corruption from people who say lets do away with God and religion all together so that we no longer have such nonsense. Thinking that this way they can avoid arguing with the priests about if God existed or not and so on. Just remove religion and all would be sorted. And this is basically where we are today and where we have got to. And as a result, God's image still remains tarnished by those priests of the past. So again the problem is not God but man. Man (in the form of the old Priesthood) exploited God for his own benefit. And tarnished God's image through this behaviour. And as a result , till this day you have people like Stephen Fry coming out and peddling this confusion, which then leads to further distancing the masses away from God. Telling them that all this religion thing is a joke and how God is evil etc. When it is man who is a joke and God who is good. Sending us messengers and propehts to guide us to do good, and then we exploit this knowledge that comes from him and start using it to serve those in power in exchange for money and position. This is the reality is it not??
And then we start calling God evil. How sad.
I dont think we are in an enlightened age really. We are still in the dark ages in my view. But the darkness is different from before. But its still dark.
So what is the way?
I will leave the answer to this to you. You tell me what is the way.
For me , the way is to come back to our senses and start rethinking and re-analysing what happened in history. Where did we go wrong? Did we do a big injustice to a good God? Who sent us guidance and guides to help us live life in the best way for happiness. Guidance that helps us cope with what this life presents to us. That makes us better able to cope and find ourselves in the middle of it. So that we reach inner peace. Isnt this what we all want? So why do we go against the one who loves us and who offers help to us in this life. Why do we go against God/Allah/Jehova ..? The one who made us.
All feedback and comments welcome.
Thankyou
@AliTwaij on twitter
@Ali.Twaij.3 on facebook
Ali Twaij
UK
Details of Mr Fry's interview here in Russell Brand's Trews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Run1jpZvS4
PS: Regarding the weak arguments that people like Fry present to us to justify their hatred and make it seem acceptable I will respond to them. If all humans are born with cancer then i would agree, God would be quite sad if he did that in my view. But its only a tiny percentage who have disabilities and illnesses and deformaties etc. The vast majority are fine and healthy and can enjoy a beautiful life if they knew how to live it right. More over i think you will find it is man again who causes many of these illnesses to children and otheres. Does depleted uranium bombs dropped in the Iraq war that causes cancer to children ring any bells. So you will find that it is man who is causing the main problems yet again. And then wants to blame his Creator for the problems man creates. This is normal unfortunately, especially in the ages of darkness.
But what about the small percentage of problems that God does create. Why does he do that? Why are some children born with cancer for instance? Well assuming they are not the man made problems i referred to, then the answer is quite simple. This is not heaven. This is earth. And we are only here temporarily and for a reason. And this reason has not been hidden from man. But repeated across most if not all the main religions. We are here on this planet for testing. And we get tested in multiple ways. Some are born blind and are tested how they behave throughout their life in response to this test of blindness. Are they patient and persevere or do they just become angry and never accept their destiny?
Some are born with cancer and their parents get tested on how they behave? Do they start blaming God and build up hatred towards him or do they accept God's will and try to do whatever God would want them to do in that situation? This is the test in my view. And what God would want us to do is to pray to him and ask him to help cure our child and to look for treatment that God may have made available that can cure such illnesses. In Islam our belief is that for every illness God created he also brought down a cure. So we need to be searching for such cures. In the past when the Muslims where awake they used to lead science and research globally with Spain and Baghdad being major capitals for this. And where words like algebra, algorithm, alchemy, alcohol and many others came from. And i believe this is about to return in a new enlightenment as the Muslims and other peoples awake in a new awakening that will herald a new age that would be the true enlightenment for mankind and which would reveal that today we are all stooped in darkness, both East and West. Not sure how many will believe me in my thoughts here, but these are my thoughts.
I do hope this answers the rediculous and highly flawed argumentation that people like Mr Fry try to peddle to the masses.
How they they portray him as some evil being ready to toss everyone into a burning hell fire with no remorse but is happy and joyful about it.
My question is how did they develop such an image about God. What made them choose that image? And what happened to the image of the Creator being loving and good. With angels that do good etc
How did this progression happen? What happened to trigger it?
Ok this is my analysis:
I think its all to do with the priests in the dark ages.They exploited relgion to basically get money and power. And also to serve the interests of the Kings and rulers of that time. Eg whenever a King wanted a war they would rally the people using religion. And would say that God wanted this war etc. The masses could easily be deceived that way. Who would think that the priests would be corrupt people?? But when you see how rich the church is then maybe you wouldnt be so surprised. By the way I hope you dont think I am using article to attack Christianity, being a Muslim in belief. This priesthood deception occurs i think in all religions. In the Muslim world this same dark ages is there now. Although slowly we are waking up from it thankfully. And these priests we call them scholars of the sultan ie servants of the Kings. Today, however, it is the media that plays their role in Europe. People believe whatever the TV and radio and newspapers say generally, so the media is the new priesthood today. Dont think they have gone. Just changed form. And the old priests no longer have much influence. The people in power will always want some tool to use to deceive the masses. If people dont care about religion today they will try to find another way to control and deceive the masses.
Going back to the old priests , they would also use the threat of Hell fire to threaten anyone who wouldnt obey them and as a result God would appear like an evil dictator whom we must serve otherwise hell is the destination and we would lose out on heaven. Whereas the reality of it is that God wants goodness and justice on earth not wars to help kings stay in power and defeat their rivals. Consequently you get a reaction to this corruption from people who say lets do away with God and religion all together so that we no longer have such nonsense. Thinking that this way they can avoid arguing with the priests about if God existed or not and so on. Just remove religion and all would be sorted. And this is basically where we are today and where we have got to. And as a result, God's image still remains tarnished by those priests of the past. So again the problem is not God but man. Man (in the form of the old Priesthood) exploited God for his own benefit. And tarnished God's image through this behaviour. And as a result , till this day you have people like Stephen Fry coming out and peddling this confusion, which then leads to further distancing the masses away from God. Telling them that all this religion thing is a joke and how God is evil etc. When it is man who is a joke and God who is good. Sending us messengers and propehts to guide us to do good, and then we exploit this knowledge that comes from him and start using it to serve those in power in exchange for money and position. This is the reality is it not??
And then we start calling God evil. How sad.
I dont think we are in an enlightened age really. We are still in the dark ages in my view. But the darkness is different from before. But its still dark.
So what is the way?
I will leave the answer to this to you. You tell me what is the way.
For me , the way is to come back to our senses and start rethinking and re-analysing what happened in history. Where did we go wrong? Did we do a big injustice to a good God? Who sent us guidance and guides to help us live life in the best way for happiness. Guidance that helps us cope with what this life presents to us. That makes us better able to cope and find ourselves in the middle of it. So that we reach inner peace. Isnt this what we all want? So why do we go against the one who loves us and who offers help to us in this life. Why do we go against God/Allah/Jehova ..? The one who made us.
All feedback and comments welcome.
Thankyou
@AliTwaij on twitter
@Ali.Twaij.3 on facebook
Ali Twaij
UK
Details of Mr Fry's interview here in Russell Brand's Trews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Run1jpZvS4
PS: Regarding the weak arguments that people like Fry present to us to justify their hatred and make it seem acceptable I will respond to them. If all humans are born with cancer then i would agree, God would be quite sad if he did that in my view. But its only a tiny percentage who have disabilities and illnesses and deformaties etc. The vast majority are fine and healthy and can enjoy a beautiful life if they knew how to live it right. More over i think you will find it is man again who causes many of these illnesses to children and otheres. Does depleted uranium bombs dropped in the Iraq war that causes cancer to children ring any bells. So you will find that it is man who is causing the main problems yet again. And then wants to blame his Creator for the problems man creates. This is normal unfortunately, especially in the ages of darkness.
But what about the small percentage of problems that God does create. Why does he do that? Why are some children born with cancer for instance? Well assuming they are not the man made problems i referred to, then the answer is quite simple. This is not heaven. This is earth. And we are only here temporarily and for a reason. And this reason has not been hidden from man. But repeated across most if not all the main religions. We are here on this planet for testing. And we get tested in multiple ways. Some are born blind and are tested how they behave throughout their life in response to this test of blindness. Are they patient and persevere or do they just become angry and never accept their destiny?
Some are born with cancer and their parents get tested on how they behave? Do they start blaming God and build up hatred towards him or do they accept God's will and try to do whatever God would want them to do in that situation? This is the test in my view. And what God would want us to do is to pray to him and ask him to help cure our child and to look for treatment that God may have made available that can cure such illnesses. In Islam our belief is that for every illness God created he also brought down a cure. So we need to be searching for such cures. In the past when the Muslims where awake they used to lead science and research globally with Spain and Baghdad being major capitals for this. And where words like algebra, algorithm, alchemy, alcohol and many others came from. And i believe this is about to return in a new enlightenment as the Muslims and other peoples awake in a new awakening that will herald a new age that would be the true enlightenment for mankind and which would reveal that today we are all stooped in darkness, both East and West. Not sure how many will believe me in my thoughts here, but these are my thoughts.
I do hope this answers the rediculous and highly flawed argumentation that people like Mr Fry try to peddle to the masses.
So primitive and simplistic you want to simply cry.
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